Question: Address change after application submission

[jason8844]

I am looking at my next suppressor purchase now that I have received news I have been approved on one of my current applications. So here is my question...

With the current wait times nearing a year after submission, what happens when you move before the application pending is approved as an individual? Do I have to get another CLEO signature if I move outside the jurisdiction of the first CLEO who signed when I first submitted?

Thanks in advance for all answers!

[ExecDirector]

You *notify* NFA Branch of the address change *after* your dealer receives the approved form. I am not aware of a requirement to obtain additional CLEO signatures as a result of moving.

[jason8844]

You *notify* NFA Branch of the address change *after* your dealer receives the approved form. I am not aware of a requirement to obtain additional CLEO signatures as a result of moving.


Ok great. I was not sure if I needed to notify them while it was pending or after approval. This makes sense. Thanks!

[darrylta]

Ok great. I was not sure if I needed to notify them while it was pending or after approval. This makes sense. Thanks!

I sent a letter to the NFA Branch to inform them of my new address and a list of NFA collectbile serial numbers.

They responded back stating since 2013, the NFA Branch was not accepting letters for change of address notification.
You have to use Form 5320.20 now, it only has room for (3) guns, so..... I had to use (4) forms, in duplicate to inform them
of my move.

Darryl

[ExecDirector]

My apologies for not being more clear... The notification should be done on 5320.20 (http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-5320-20.pdf).

[jason8844]

You *notify* NFA Branch of the address change *after* your dealer receives the approved form. I am not aware of a requirement to obtain additional CLEO signatures as a result of moving.

One more question...

What if it is a Form 1?

[Armorer-at-Law]

What if it is a Form 1?
Same procedure. Use Form 5320.20

[jason8844]

Same procedure. Use Form 5320.20

Even if the Form 1 is pending and not approved yet?

I guess what I trying to find out is how would I get a Form 1 approved if I sent it in before I moved and now live in a different jurisdiction than the CLEO sign off.

I get the Form 4 issue. Just submit the address change after you pick up the item. But a Form 1 gets mailed to you.

[ExecDirector]

Make sure that you have postal mail forwarding in place. Submit the 5320.20 *after* you receive the approval. No additional CLEO involvement.

[darrylta]

Make sure that you have postal mail forwarding in place. Submit the 5320.20 *after* you receive the approval. No additional CLEO involvement.

Well I sent in (4) 5320.20 forms for my upcoming move to WV.
I have a NAC-Colt that has been pending for over 8 months that was signed off by the Maryland State Police "Maryland's CLEO"

I guess the Branch caught wind of my move and returned my Form 4s to my dealer.
It seems that now I have to get a WV CLEO signoff before they will approve the Form 4.

Delay & Impede,

Darryl

[ExecDirector]

Which is why most folks suggest doing the 5320.20 *after* you get the approval.

[darrylta]

Which is why most folks suggest doing the 5320.20 *after* you get the approval.

There is somethings in life you can not delay or skirt around. What is worse, getting caught in a lie,,,or adding a couple weeks to a transfer?
-Darryl

[jason8844]

There is somethings in life you can not delay or skirt around. What is worse, getting caught in a lie,,,or adding a couple weeks to a transfer?
-Darryl

I agree with your position. But this is where we must demand more reasonable processing times. I am going to try and be reasonable myself with what I want. I personally would be ok with 5 or 6 months to get a Form 1 or 4 back, I still think it should be 3, but 11 or 12 months is unacceptable. In this modern world it is hard to plan what you are going to do next month, let alone a year and you should not be punished when you filled out the forms in good faith and due to inaction, you get kicked around and go to the back of the line when you need to move.

[ExecDirector]

But you said it was an "upcoming move to WV." That would lead one to honestly state that you haven't moved yet. Your original submission was correct at the time of application and you haven't moved yet. Until that original form is approved, the item is not moving or being stored anywhere other than where things started, so there is no need for a 5320.20... Until *after* you take possession of the item and move to a new place.

[darrylta]

But you said it was an "upcoming move to WV." That would lead one to honestly state that you haven't moved yet. Your original submission was correct at the time of application and you haven't moved yet. Until that original form is approved, the item is not moving or being stored anywhere other than where things started, so there is no need for a 5320.20... Until *after* you take possession of the item and move to a new place.


I still own the Maryland house, I'm looking to sell after I make some improvements to it. So I live in both houses now.
I'm a C&R FFL, I can move guns in my collection either inter / intra to keep them near me at all times. I sent the 53020.20 as
a courtesy to the Branch to let them know of my change of address to WV. It is confusing that this form does both, application to travel,,,,,
and change of address. It would be nice to have separate forms.

The dealer I used on the transfer stated that all I needed to do is to have the WV CLEO sign off on this transfer and the Form 4 will be approved.
As a side note, this last transfer will bring my collection of NFA collectables to (12). It would have been easier if only one firearm was in question.

Thanks,
Darryl